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	<title>Comments on: Business Referral Network &#8211; Should I Join BNI?</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew Flusche</title>
		<link>http://www.legalandrew.com/2008/08/08/business-referral-network-should-i-join-bni/comment-page-1/#comment-62668</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Flusche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fcradio - Your experience isn&#039;t uncommon.  I definitely don&#039;t think BNI is for everyone.  But some people sure seem to get something worthwhile out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fcradio &#8211; Your experience isn&#8217;t uncommon.  I definitely don&#8217;t think BNI is for everyone.  But some people sure seem to get something worthwhile out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: fcradio</title>
		<link>http://www.legalandrew.com/2008/08/08/business-referral-network-should-i-join-bni/comment-page-1/#comment-62667</link>
		<dc:creator>fcradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I was in BNI, for about 1 and 1/2 a year.
No real good leads received.
Some were fake leads.
The only one making money is BNI, I figure they made at least 10K from people coming and going, over that time period.
Also they have very annoying visitors days you have to send junk mail to  30 guests.
Then they also give you misleading and not all information when you might join. (we do not want to confuse you)...
Members also have to put some peer pressure on  people to join.
Did not like it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I was in BNI, for about 1 and 1/2 a year.<br />
No real good leads received.<br />
Some were fake leads.<br />
The only one making money is BNI, I figure they made at least 10K from people coming and going, over that time period.<br />
Also they have very annoying visitors days you have to send junk mail to  30 guests.<br />
Then they also give you misleading and not all information when you might join. (we do not want to confuse you)&#8230;<br />
Members also have to put some peer pressure on  people to join.<br />
Did not like it</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Flusche</title>
		<link>http://www.legalandrew.com/2008/08/08/business-referral-network-should-i-join-bni/comment-page-1/#comment-62356</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Flusche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan - Thanks for pointing out the extra fee for food.  I never thought about that.  I&#039;ve since found a local networking group called &quot;FreeNI&quot; where there are no dues, and everyone simply pays for his own food.  More on that to come!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan &#8211; Thanks for pointing out the extra fee for food.  I never thought about that.  I&#8217;ve since found a local networking group called &#8220;FreeNI&#8221; where there are no dues, and everyone simply pays for his own food.  More on that to come!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan O</title>
		<link>http://www.legalandrew.com/2008/08/08/business-referral-network-should-i-join-bni/comment-page-1/#comment-62355</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The value of BNI to an attorney will depend on the composition of the members.  I attended and joined one in Colorado, and it was a waste of time and money.  When I initially attended there were BNI persons in a field of practice that was mutually beneficial to my practice; however, shortly after I became a member, such persons left BNI and referrals from BNI dried up (not that there were many referrals to begin with).

While networking is important, there are better alternatives than paying $300+ for membership.

BTW if your BNI meets at a restaurant, often the BNI chapter charges a seperate fee for food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The value of BNI to an attorney will depend on the composition of the members.  I attended and joined one in Colorado, and it was a waste of time and money.  When I initially attended there were BNI persons in a field of practice that was mutually beneficial to my practice; however, shortly after I became a member, such persons left BNI and referrals from BNI dried up (not that there were many referrals to begin with).</p>
<p>While networking is important, there are better alternatives than paying $300+ for membership.</p>
<p>BTW if your BNI meets at a restaurant, often the BNI chapter charges a seperate fee for food.</p>
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		<title>By: SharkGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.legalandrew.com/2008/08/08/business-referral-network-should-i-join-bni/comment-page-1/#comment-62299</link>
		<dc:creator>SharkGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a consumer, the last place I look is the Yellow Pages.  In fact, I threw my phone book away.  If a business owner doesn&#039;t have a Web site, I don&#039;t like that.  

To research a business, I&#039;ll find, through Google, what I&#039;m looking for.  When I find a Web site of the type of business I&#039;m looking for, I&#039;ll research their domain to see if there are any complaints on the Internet about them.  Then, I go from there.

The biggest complaint referral I go to is ripoffreport.com.  People &quot;tell&quot; on businesses there, so you learn who not to do business with.

I really have no use for a phone book anymore, because if they&#039;re a friend, I already have their number.  If they&#039;re a business...there&#039;s an Internet out there to find their Web site.

I&#039;m in the process of starting my own company and won&#039;t open until I have a nice Web site for people to go look at.  I know if sites are important to me, then chances are, others will ask me if I have a Web site.  That&#039;s one of the first questions I ask people if they introduce their business to me.  &quot;Do you have a Web site?&quot;

As for networking, I got tired of trying to keep up with Facebook, LinkdIn, Plaxo, etc. so I deleted all those accounts.  Everyone wants you to sign up for their networking and it got tiring trying to update what everyone considered to be the &quot;best&quot; networking.

When I get in the position to be able afford networking, I would prefer something where you can see people face to face.  BNI sounds like it&#039;s that type of networking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a consumer, the last place I look is the Yellow Pages.  In fact, I threw my phone book away.  If a business owner doesn&#8217;t have a Web site, I don&#8217;t like that.  </p>
<p>To research a business, I&#8217;ll find, through Google, what I&#8217;m looking for.  When I find a Web site of the type of business I&#8217;m looking for, I&#8217;ll research their domain to see if there are any complaints on the Internet about them.  Then, I go from there.</p>
<p>The biggest complaint referral I go to is ripoffreport.com.  People &#8220;tell&#8221; on businesses there, so you learn who not to do business with.</p>
<p>I really have no use for a phone book anymore, because if they&#8217;re a friend, I already have their number.  If they&#8217;re a business&#8230;there&#8217;s an Internet out there to find their Web site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the process of starting my own company and won&#8217;t open until I have a nice Web site for people to go look at.  I know if sites are important to me, then chances are, others will ask me if I have a Web site.  That&#8217;s one of the first questions I ask people if they introduce their business to me.  &#8220;Do you have a Web site?&#8221;</p>
<p>As for networking, I got tired of trying to keep up with Facebook, LinkdIn, Plaxo, etc. so I deleted all those accounts.  Everyone wants you to sign up for their networking and it got tiring trying to update what everyone considered to be the &#8220;best&#8221; networking.</p>
<p>When I get in the position to be able afford networking, I would prefer something where you can see people face to face.  BNI sounds like it&#8217;s that type of networking.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Flusche</title>
		<link>http://www.legalandrew.com/2008/08/08/business-referral-network-should-i-join-bni/comment-page-1/#comment-62288</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Flusche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Patrick and Danita, for your great comments.  I think the consensus is that referral networks are important and great business tools.

I have investigated the local Chamber of Commerce as well.  The dues are slightly higher, and I don&#039;t think I&#039;d get as much out of it.

Decisions, decisions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Patrick and Danita, for your great comments.  I think the consensus is that referral networks are important and great business tools.</p>
<p>I have investigated the local Chamber of Commerce as well.  The dues are slightly higher, and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d get as much out of it.</p>
<p>Decisions, decisions!</p>
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		<title>By: danita</title>
		<link>http://www.legalandrew.com/2008/08/08/business-referral-network-should-i-join-bni/comment-page-1/#comment-62285</link>
		<dc:creator>danita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

Found your blog - wanted to share my experience with BNI.

I&#039;ve been a member of BNI for 3 years.  It has been the best move I made for my business.  70% of all my business came from BNI referrals last year.

Attorneys do EXTREMELY well in BNI.

The Attendance policy is a little different then what you wrote.  You get 3 absences every 6 months - and if you know you are going to be unable to make a meeting - you can send a substitute.

The structure and &quot;rigidness&quot; is what makes BNI the largest referal organization in the world.  It has been around for 24 years ---- so they know something about referall networking!

The cost is actually very nominal for what you get.  People spend way more money on coffee on a yearly basis - and as you said - ads in the yellow pages are way more expensive.  Most business owners get a return on their investment within the first few months!

Have you looked at the local Chamber of Commerce.  In my area, it costs about the same to join the Chamber as it does to join BNI.

I have yet to meet a Chamber member who feels like their investment in the chamber was worthwhile!  BNI members RAVE about their membership!!

If I were you ---- my application would be signed and delivered to the membership committee already!

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>Found your blog &#8211; wanted to share my experience with BNI.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a member of BNI for 3 years.  It has been the best move I made for my business.  70% of all my business came from BNI referrals last year.</p>
<p>Attorneys do EXTREMELY well in BNI.</p>
<p>The Attendance policy is a little different then what you wrote.  You get 3 absences every 6 months &#8211; and if you know you are going to be unable to make a meeting &#8211; you can send a substitute.</p>
<p>The structure and &#8220;rigidness&#8221; is what makes BNI the largest referal organization in the world.  It has been around for 24 years &#8212;- so they know something about referall networking!</p>
<p>The cost is actually very nominal for what you get.  People spend way more money on coffee on a yearly basis &#8211; and as you said &#8211; ads in the yellow pages are way more expensive.  Most business owners get a return on their investment within the first few months!</p>
<p>Have you looked at the local Chamber of Commerce.  In my area, it costs about the same to join the Chamber as it does to join BNI.</p>
<p>I have yet to meet a Chamber member who feels like their investment in the chamber was worthwhile!  BNI members RAVE about their membership!!</p>
<p>If I were you &#8212;- my application would be signed and delivered to the membership committee already!</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.legalandrew.com/2008/08/08/business-referral-network-should-i-join-bni/comment-page-1/#comment-62282</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for BNI but I am a member of a competitor group called, PNC - Professional Network Connections.

http://www.pnconnections.org/

Their is some overlap in some markets but from what I have heard PNC&#039;s requirements are a little more relaxed.  The dues are similar but a little bit less.  Our business has done quite well by our active participation in local networking groups including PNC, the Chamber of Commerce, etc.  The trick however is you can&#039;t just show up and expect things to happen.  Yes, you do get known and are more familar than a &quot;non name&quot; in the phone book but general business rules apply like a quick follow up after exchanging business cards, making follow up sales calls, etc.

I mentioned in a previous meeting that although we often try to get referrals for others in attendance I have also developed partnerships with non-competing but complimentary businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for BNI but I am a member of a competitor group called, PNC &#8211; Professional Network Connections.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pnconnections.org/">http://www.pnconnections.org/</a></p>
<p>Their is some overlap in some markets but from what I have heard PNC&#8217;s requirements are a little more relaxed.  The dues are similar but a little bit less.  Our business has done quite well by our active participation in local networking groups including PNC, the Chamber of Commerce, etc.  The trick however is you can&#8217;t just show up and expect things to happen.  Yes, you do get known and are more familar than a &#8220;non name&#8221; in the phone book but general business rules apply like a quick follow up after exchanging business cards, making follow up sales calls, etc.</p>
<p>I mentioned in a previous meeting that although we often try to get referrals for others in attendance I have also developed partnerships with non-competing but complimentary businesses.</p>
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